29RZ10 - The put up or shut up mark II act

Clarked in the 4th Clark (December 2001) of the 29th Ziu
Clark Entry ID: 339
Bill ID: 739

WHEREAS it is illegal to make baseless accusions in Talossa without at least trying to sue the person accused as per the Put up or Shut up act, and;

WHEREAS several people are routinely accused of being a Traitor, and;

WHEREAS there are no specific laws defining treason thus making it hard to sue a person, and;

WHEREAS it it currently possible to commit treason even thought it's definition is not legally defined, and;

WHEREAS traitors are rarely there to defend themselves, making it even harder to sue them, and;

WHEREAS this actually protects the person accusing them of being traitors

THEREFORE the ziu,

- Establishes a commission on writing a Treason law, with the procedure for suing a person of treason when they have left.

Such a law will need to include provision for determining if there were already legal precedent allowing to sue someone who committed treason prior to the passage of the law and determining if it is thus possible to sue someone under this law even if it was approved after the fact, since the law only clarifies points of law that were not clearly defined.

The commission will only be responsible for submitting the law, and not on determining if certain citizens have indeed committed treason.

- Formally forbids calling someone a traitor or unformally accusing them of treason during the work of the commission, and until such a time as when the commission will have deposed a bill defining treason ( thus forcing them to act quickly ).

- Recommends the documentation of cases of alleged Treason to be brought before the cort once the law will be in place.

- Recommends that the Upper cort justice take serious interests in the procedings of the commission, since they will mostly be needed to vote on the validity of the proposed law.

Ureu q'estadra så,
Sir Martì-Páir Furxhéir (PC-Atatürk)

Vote summary

Number: 29RZ10
Vote date: December 2001
Result: None (Cosă: 8-3-6, Senäts: 3-0-1)
Required for passage: Simple majority of both Houses

Voting record

MC Party Vote
Sir Gödafrïeu Válcadác'h Ind.RCT Austanéu
Ben Madison PC Per
Ián von Metáiriâ PC Austanéu
Art Verbotten PC Per
Wes Erni PC
Matthias Muth PC
Albrec'ht Lupulardít PC Per
Sir Tamorán dal Nava PC Contră
Mic'haglh Loquatsch PC
John Minot PC Per
Amy Durnford PC Per
Sir Martì-Páir Furxhéir PC Per
Andrea Thompson PC Austanéu
Ronált Rosáis RCT Austanéu
Davïu Foctéir RCT Contră
Uglhán Cruceatúl RCT Austanéu
Bill Cooper RCT Austanéu
Gjermund Higraff ZPT Per
Ieremiac'h Ventrutx ZPT Contră
Xherált Del'Encradéir ZPT Per
8-3-6
Senator Province Pr. Vote
Ián von Metáiriâ Maritiimi-Maxhestic MM Austanéu
Harry Lee Madison Vuode VD
Matthias Muth Belacostă BE
Gjermund Higraff Cézembre CZ Per
Mximo Carbonel Florenciă FL
Albrec'ht Lupulardít Maricopa MA Per
Sir Martì-Páir Furxhéir Atatürk AK Per
3-0-1
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